On March - 30 - 2011
30.03.11: A Study Of 21st Century Azzurri And Oriundi With Guest Giancarlo Rinaldi
Back to join us during this international week of Euro 2012 qualifers is Giancarlo Rinaldi. The panel discuss the Prandelli revolution or evolution, depending how you see things.
Topics include,
- Born in Brazil but with roots in Rovigo
- What are Oriundi, Giancarlo?
- Midfield footing
- Age of the ‘destroyer’ is over
- New partnerships
Players of interest include, Stefano Mauri, Giampaolo Pazzini, Alessandro Matri, Leonardo Bonucci, Antonio Cassano, Riccardo Montolivo, Alberto Aquilani, Gigi Buffon and Federico Balzaretti
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Wonderful podcast lads.
Few things boyz
If the age of the destroyer is over, then Montolivo and Aquilani need to harden the feck up! I say that will as much genuine honesty as possible
Secondly, who f’n cares that Motta was born in Brazil. It’s not like Italy is the only team with foreign born, naturalized players on the team.
Fact is, Motta has Italian grandparents. It is more than can be said for
Cacau (Native Brazilian player for Germany - no German roots)
Da Silva (ditto Croatia)
Senna (who played for the Euro cup winning Spanish team - no Spanish roots)
Deco and Pepe (both played for Portugual, and despite what the Portuguese will say - no Portuguese roots).
There are dozen other examples that need not be mentioned. The only time I hear anyone making a big deal of it is when it happens with Italy. Before Motta was Camoranesi, before him Altafini, and at least a dozen others.
If one naturalized Italian, WITH Italian roots, can help add a piece to the puzzle - then so be it.
You guys are doing nice work here.
Pauly,
“The only time I hear anyone making a big deal of it is when it happens with Italy. Before Motta was Camoranesi, before him Altafini, and at least a dozen others”
and of course that is a point we brought to light, time to get over it! And so it seems you are in agreement with the panel, thanks for leaving your comments.
Yeah, I’m in agreement but I’d like to add I hope it is within reason. Joe Rossi? No problem - two Italian parents, back in Italy at age 13. Santacroce? No problem! Italian father, back in Italy at age 4. Motta? No issues there. As I understand it, all of his grandparents are Italian (not sure if you can clarify). Amauri? No thanks. Not just because he’s crap now, but even when he was on fire with Palermo. His back and forth was nauseating, and anyhow he wasn’t as good as anyone was claiming. But, more importantly he’s not really an Oriundo - no Italian roots.
Hope that clarifies my position on it.
Oh yeah, I suppose Perrotta being born in England makes him Oriundo, as would Gentile being born in Libya (as you guys mentioned in the podcast), but returning as young lads to the peninsula to learn their trade. Fabiano Santacroce would probably apply as well, despite coming back at age four, having been born in Brazil himself. Fine lines with those ones boyz!
FWIW, Neither Gentile, Perrotta or Rossi have made this page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriundo
Motta is a common name for Italians.